and four star general and the head of the cia. >> what about his wife? that's the person that should be concerned about this. >> about holly patraeus, should she stay with her man? been with him 38 years. go stand by your man? what do you think if it were you? >> if it were me? are you asking me? what do you think? >> i think he's toast. >> that's a personal decision that each woman has to make. and i would not say she needs to leave him. if he were my husband he'd be gone. >> like that reba show where she stands there and the husband says i have an affair and i'm standing here and telling you i'm leaving his lying cheating butt or something. but life doesn't always imitate the sitcoms. this is deep stuff. when there's an affair it cuts to the soul of you and you want to hope people can work it out. that's really tough. >> and there are children involved and you've seen women stand by public figures. an thoughy's wife standing next to him and you can see the pain in her face but she's standing there. her reasons are her reasons. >> and she was pregnant a